The Sad, New Face of Collecting

Lately, it seems collectors cannot go a single day without hearing or seeing a retail flipper weighing and/or searching through unopened retail packs. While this has been a problem I’ve personally encountered for nearly two decades, thanks to rabid discussions on social media, the word is finally getting out. The image below comes from Twitter where a user snapped a photograph of a collector/flipper sprawled out on the card aisle floor sans footwear going through all the retail packs searching for the “hit”, AKA the autograph and/or game-used memorabilia card.

To some, this may seem like a victimless crime. Who hasn’t been ripped off by Topps or Panini at one point, right? Others look at the fact that most “hits” in retail products are of utility players barely worth the time and effort to create an eBay listing. The most arrogant collectors just look down on others for spending money on retail when there are Hobby-exclusive products that are safe from this type of behavior. Yes, there are exclusive and extremely overpriced Hobby products available but even those boxes aren’t safe and haven’t been for quite some time.

Back in 1991, in the middle of the Junk Wax era and during the absolute madness that came from Donruss’ Elite inserts, there were already horror stories going around of card shop owners weighing boxes of 1991 Donruss and leaving the rest for sale to unsuspecting, mostly young collectors. These stories eventually made their way to online discussion groups on AOL and later, through message boards. Today, we still hear these tales on card blogs and social media. Collectors never forgot and you can bet they will never forgive. Once you earn the label of a scammer in this hobby, you are as good as done.

Now imagine running an online business selling trading cards in 2021 and then openly admitting to all your followers and potential clients that you weigh boxes. That’s exactly what ‘limitedissue‘ is doing and somehow he’s still moving products. As of Sunday, however, things got so hot that he was forced to turn off commenting on his Downtown brag post. As of today, the post in question is still up but don’t be surprised to see the evidence taken down very soon and everything wiped clean including the username. Bragging online about ripping off collectors doesn’t exactly make for a great business model.

Thanks to the wonderful world wide web, we can easily look up the information to LimitedIssue’s domain name registration. As it turns out, the domain is registered to a Mark Ibarra from New Jersey. I was able to find his email, home address and even his phone number but I’ll go ahead and keep that information private. Just remember to never, ever buy unopened products from anyone named Mark Ibarra from Jersey because what you will likely be paying for is pre-weighed boxes that gives you no shot at anything worthwhile. Protect yourself and protect other collectors.

While collectors can be a greedy bunch at times, not everyone is the same. Everyone collects differently and robbing someone from pulling what to you may be worthless $2 relic, is 100% criminal. Retail odds are already stacked to the roof and having these fat, greasy pack-feeling geeks making things worse only takes away from the joy that opening baseball cards provides. There is no way to stop card shop owners and these retail flippers from committing these acts but hopefully there’s still some good out there somewhere. For now, your best bet is to buy directly from manufacturers whenever possible.

2 thoughts on “The Sad, New Face of Collecting

  1. I saw someone over the weekend who tweeted at Ivan Lovegren giving the weights of various boxes of a product and asking which ones were the good ones. To his credit, Ivan shut him down.

    If Fanatics is listening, they could get a lot of goodwill in the hobby by making sure every box weighs exactly the same. Would cost them some money, but it should be possible.

  2. That photo of a grown man sitting on the floor searching packs is truly sad. I like Brett’s idea of Fanatics (and other card companies) going the extra length to weigh their boxes. Hope they consider the idea.

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