Champion vs. Challenger
Favorite vs. Underdog
Puerto Rico vs. Mexico
Tonight, an undefeated, seemingly-unstoppable fighter by the name of Miguel Cotto came in looking better than ever for his fight against dangerous, but unheralded Antonio Margarito. Sure, Tony had a reputation for viciousness, once knocking a man’s ear clean off with a punch—but Cotto was younger and had no stains on his record.
In the beginning it looked as if Cotto was ten times a better fighter but Margarito never stopped punching despite being down on the scorecards all the way into the 11th of 12 rounds. Antonio also took some of the most brutal shots I have ever seen anyone land and walked right through them without even flinching! In the end, Antonio Margarito won by TKO in the 11th and probably destroyed the career of the once dominant Puerto Rican fighter in Cotto.
Topps Company, who put out official boxing autographs in their 2008 release did not include Antonio Margarito or Miguel Cotto in their checklist, unfortunately. There is plenty of items on eBay at the moment of both fighters, including autographs.
Keep checking back for amazing photos of the best fight of ‘08!
Tonight i have witnessed one of the most dramatic fights in history. An artist at what he does (Miguel cotto) was defeated and stripped of his belt. Im devasted about the loss But most proud of the performance of Miguel. That was the best fight that i have ever seen Miguel put forth when it came to his slippery defense and excellent offense. Hopefully This loss will not affect the worriers carrier But may it escalate from this defeat. So heres
To say I still tip my hat to my man Miguel Cotto for his excellent performance and being the well rounded fighter that he is.
“In the beginning it looked as if Cotto was ten times a better fighter but Margarito never stopped punching despite being down on the scorecards all the way into the 11th of 12 rounds.”
Just wanted to point out that the above is incorrect–Margarito was ahead (he was winning the fight) on two of the judges’ scorecards (the other one had it scored evenly) rather than behind.
I think I have seen the biggest upset in today’s boxing. People have always considered Miguel Cotto to be an invincible boxer, a tactician. I did but at the same time I’m one of those who have longed and wished to see him get beaten, or better yet get knocked out. In tonight’s bout, seeing Margarito always being the aggressive boxer, I knew the possibility was there. Margarito didn’t mind getting tagged a couple of times every time he tries to move towards Cotto.
To Cotto, I mean, you don’t win a big bout just by counterpunching your way through it. You gotta push the guy, boy! That’s why I don’t really understand why Bob Arum is stopping Manny Pacquiao from going up to 147 just because of Cotto. Pacquiao has encountered too many counterpunchers and Cotto, especially with his performance tonight, seems to be no different from them. Moreover, Cotto is too slow. If Pacquiao manages to maintain his speed despite going up to 147, he could crush Cotto. Just like what he did to David Diaz.
Good thing in the 11th round Margarito’s efforts paid off. I knew Cotto was getting weak. Just look at his face. I have never seen his face that wrecked. Getting stripped of his title, well, what’s with Cotto for Pacquiao to fight him. No more glory to fight him. NONE.
Erik, I wrote this before the score cards were released and immediately after the knock out. I just assumed that he was by looking at Ledderman’s card, which Cotto was up on by 2 going into the 10th.
Miguel Cotto has heart of gold as for Margarito. But Margarito was not being the best man for he did land a few low blows. The cut over his eye is questionable for it couldve been a hit or head butt. And there fore he could not see in his eyes as he was punching. Not making any excuses he lost he lost. BUt i say if they have a rematch Cotto will destrow him with body shots.
MARGARITO WAS THE HARDER PUNCHER…COTTO COULD NOT TAKE HIS BODY SHOTS. HE RAN MOST OF THE FIGHT. HE WAS SCARED. MARGARITO WON AND WOULD WIN AGAIN IN A REMATCH.
The only one that got distroyed by body shoots was Cotto. He got his ass kicked.
cotto is the best and rimeaning the best
I’m glad margarito won and I wanted him to knock out miguel cotto but not that bad. I liked cotto but I’m mexican and not a traitor i think cotto did not diserve to be knock out like that it breaks my hart to see him all bloody and beaten with out any hope it really hurts because cotto is a real sports man he never talked shit like other boxers like maywether jr. he was always very respectfull and educated like his boxing style. Id like to see maywether end like that he disserves that kind of knock out not cotto. viva maragarito viva cotto I hope cotto comes back from that dissapointing defeat.
so so disappointed
It amazes me to hear people say thing’s like “Shocking”, “Biggest upset in years”…etc. This fight was too close to call before the event and I saw it as going either way with a slight Margarito advantage, due to size. There should be no rematch because what would Cotto do differently? He hit Margarito with shot after shot in the first six or seven rounds and never came close to hurting him! I was surprised to see Cotto run and counter punch the whole fight and thought he’d go toe to toe. I think he felt Tony’s power early and spent the rest of the night trying to stay away. The fact is Margarito’s too big for this division and should go up to middleweight, where he belongs! Cotto was just too small to hurt him and aside from someone like Williams, Antonio’s got too much of a size advantage, specially when you consider Cotto came up from Light weight and light welter weight. Antonio fought a great fight and I’d never take a thing from him….in fact I made $230 betting on the knock out!
pbf too fast to slick for any welterweight hands down pls leave that man alone nobody will beat him
Margarito= Machine. Cotto showed much skill but very little heart by taking a knee when the going got to tough and leaving the ring without giving A.M. props on TV. I honestly thought he ran too much for a banger as well but hey.. MARGO new linear champ at welter and is in the drivers seat for all mega fights. GO MARGO..
DWAYNE- PBF would crumble under the pressure as well- how would he keep margo off of him?? He has less power then cotto and even he couldnt deal with it. PBF would be on his bicycle all night and probably injure his hands on Margos granite chin. Money Mayweather said no to $ 8million before AM was a household name. Be real man.
Im so fuckin happy that margarito won… Im mexican all the way and since the fight started i had my doubts about margarito winning… but as the fight kept goin margarito kept crushing cotto. Im so happy margarito won…. He deserves it…
I told everybody Margarito was too big for Cotto. Cotto’s fighting style is taylor made for Margarito now Mayweather even though Margarito is bigger he would beat Margarito easy because he would box him and give him movement like Williams did but mayweather is so fast he would hit Margarito with 5 punches at a time.
One thing that I noticed that Cotto didnt do was go to Margarito’s body. I think that was what caused his defeat. Had he gone to the body early on, he could of slowed down margarito. he kept going for the head shot which he was clearly hitting but his trade mark is body work. Just look at some of his destructive knockouts, they were all a result of body work. Im not saying he would have knocked margarito out but he would have definately slowed him down. Body work slows down opponents. I think Cotto hit Margarito in the body maybe 3 times in the whole fight. Im not taking anything away from Margarito, he won the fight fair & square and is a tremendous fighter but I still think Cotto is better and would beat margarito in a rematch. Still congratulations to Margarito!
I also wanted to add that for the first 6 rounds Cotto humiliated Margarito with his skills in the ring.
What a great fight between two true warriors. I like Cotto and his skills are superior to Margarito’s but Antonio has the determination to win and he is a relentless puncher. I believe that Cotto will learn from this fight and will be a better fighter. I celebrate Tony Margarito’s well deserved win since I am a Tijuanenses but give credit to Cotto for his performance and the way he always carries himself off the ring, like a true professional.
YOU HAVE WITNESS THE STRONG WILL OF A TRUE MEXICAN BOXER HEART. THE HUNGER ,THE PAIN, AND NO LESS THE PRIDE OF A MAN ON A MISSION. CLASSIC FIGHT FOR YEARS TO COME, THE WAR OF TWO NATIONS BEING SHOWCASE IN THE BIGGEST STAGE ON EARTH. MEXICO VS PUERTO RICO THE CHAMP VS THE UNDERDOG NO LONGER A BOXING MATCH BUT A WAR OF PRIDE. MARGARITO IS THE THE CHAMP AND YOU BETTER BELEIVE THIS GUY IS NO FLUKE, IF U DONT BELEIVE WHAT IM SAYING JUST GO AHEAD AND ASK KERMIT CINTRON…………..
To the guy who questions Cotto’s heart, I believe both times he took a knee was just to get a break and not because he wanted to quit. I believe had the fight not been stopped by his corner throwing the towel, he might of finished the round.
Still, Margarito is a beast!
Margarito get’s stripped of belt. Pop positive on drug test!!!
Cotto came out strong as expected. He for some reason was obsessed with head hunting, rather than trying to break down the body. Margarito of course in posession of the greater chin was not hurt and was not going to be hurt more than likely if it werent stopped by COTTO’S corner. We all know how this goes, Cotto will have some more fights and more than likely become champ again in the future. But we all know that as soon as TITO TRINIDAD lost his title, his so called people were the ones talking the most trash on him. One loss and his “countrymen” turn their backs. Everyone wants to ride COTTO’S D##K while he is undefeated but once he loses everyone forgets that he is still a top fighter. I personally wanted Margarito to win and i knew he would be too much. Cotto is a warrior and fought to best of his ability that night, it just was not enough. Everybody has their day. he will surely be on top again sooner or later. But for all of you D##K riding, bandwagon, never been in the ring, loud mouths, put on the gloves first and then talk SH##. Anyway, now lets see who is going to duck these fighter’s next.
This was one of the best fights I ever seen. Cotto came out strong in the first couple of rounds, but towards the end Margarito prooved that he was the stronger boxer. Cotto is a good fighter, but on Saturday he got whooped by a great fitghter. Much props to all the fans, they had their countrymen’s back that night. I’ve been a boxing fan since I was a youngin and this fight by far is one of the best! Even though Margarito deserves a De La Hoya fight, I don’t think Oscar will go that route. He is business man looking for the Benji’s!!! so a De La Hoya and Pacquiao fight would be a good MONEY maker. Wouldn’t it be cool if Margarito moved to middleweight?? maybe Margarito VS Pavlik would be a good one since no one is taking any dibs on Pavlike right now. This gave the boxing world a big up!!!!! YA TU SABE!
1st of all, 90% of you guys out there were unsure margo was going to win. 2nd, cotto made margo look slow and out classed. Cotto is the superior boxer. Why cotto lost the fight was because he didn’t throw body shots and didn’t have the stamina to finish. Margos strenth is his stamina and chin. That was the difference. Margo has an azteca facial structure to which is hard to cut and bust open but, look at his eyes after the fight, starting to swell bad. Cotto had the perfect plan to win, just not enough gas. Max kellerman said in the 7th,”I thought we were here to watch a classic boxing match, instead we are seeing a classic boxing exhibition from miguel cotto”. I don’t think cotto finishing would have made a difference since 2 judges had margo up by 2 and 1 judge a tie. So I believe cotto was going to get robbed by the judges, passing of the belt. Margo just did his job. Took the punches, had the stamina and stopped him. Its obvious cotto legs just gave up from the feet movement and the power shots he threw. No other fighter would be able to take those kind of punches from cotto. If margo ever gets ko’d, that boxer can thank cotto for softening margo up. Cotto laid down a game plan just like paul williams did to beat margo. Surprisingly, cotto fought the best fight of his life in losing. Did anyone see his head movement in the fifth? Margo threw 5 to 6 punches, and missed. Contgrats to margo, cotto will be back, to be the best you got to fight the best and your gonna take some loses.cotto did what the maywheather and mosleys didn’t do, fight the best. In cottos defeat, there is honor and valor. His corner stopped the fight, they had to. Cotto will only get better.
This guy who is giving Cotto propos is probably Puerto Rican. We all saw the fight and we all know that Cotto is a boxing genious. The fact is he got beat by a BETTER fighter. Better because he won! Outboxed him. Yes you can say Margarito has an aztecan chin and blah blah blah but at the end of the night Margarito came out with the W and it was a TKO… close to a KO but Cotto’s corner avoided that. If it went to 12 Margarito would of won anyways. Still beleive this was one of the best fights.
Tonio Margarito destroyed Miguel Cotto with a much needed beat down !!
Everyone and their mother was on Cotto’s tip for this one , I hate to break it to all the Puetro rican’s out there but your boy got waxed!! Yes Cotto has skill , yes he is a great boxer , but no he is not superior to Antonio Margarito all you die hard mexican fight fans out there take heed to what we all saw Saturday night that was the 2008 version of Julio Ceasar Chavez . This is just the first victory of many to come for Antonio Margarito, now everbody can see why Pretty boy stepped aside !! Margarito is a throwback Mexican fighter with great heart, size and more phsyical tools than any other great mexican fighter with that style of boxing before him. The sky is the limit for Margarito now !! De la Hoya just found his replacement !!!
Time to pass the torch !! One way or the other !
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS TO A FIGHTER THAT GETS PUMPED UP, BY BEATING HAND PICKED FIGHTERS AND OLD CHAMPS. MARGARITO HAS BEEN FIGHTING WITH THE YOUNG TUFF FIGHTERS FOR YEARS. COTTO WAS SET UP.
let’s all cross our finger’s and pray to see MARGARITO VS PAVLIK sometime within the next year that’s the next fight i wanna see . Hell I’d love to See a rematch between Paul Williams and Margarito , avenge his defeat !! Hopefully he doesn’t fight the winner of Clottey , Judah both are bums !! but i’ll be watching this saturday !
To yat tu sabe, yes I’m puerto rican, and you? Mexican? Or maybe black? Because the only one’s talking mad crap is the non believeing mexicans who now are margo bitches or niggas who always got beef with puerto ricans. What ever the case, you are all blind to the fact that margo is just a fighter, not a talented boxer. You all weren’t thinking margo was “the best” when the punisher paul williams gave margo a lost. I’m sure you all didn’t think margo would win when cotto was smacking him with combos from hell. Just because you win, it doesn’t mean your better. Margo just took punches and when cotto tired out, he finished him, you call that better? Dela hoya was winning against hopkins, hopkins throws a liver shot, dela hoya goes down, that makes hopkins better? Big z, what is so superior about margo? That he won cuz the other boxer tired out? His legs were gone so margo to advantage as he should and won? Landed 27% of his punches compared to cotto who landed 47% of his punches and margo is superior? Don’t think so bro, margo just happend to win. If cotto had the stamina (mind you, he doesn’t move and weave for all 12 rounds)he would have beaten margo by out pointing him. Let’s keep it real, just cuz you beat a team the yankees don’t mean your superior.
To yat tu sabe, yes I’m puerto rican, and you? Mexican? Or maybe black? Because the only one’s talking mad crap is the non believeing mexicans who now are margo bitches or niggas who always got beef with puerto ricans. What ever the case, you are all blind to the fact that margo is just a fighter, not a talented boxer. You all weren’t thinking margo was “the best” when the punisher paul williams gave margo a lost. I’m sure you all didn’t think margo would win when cotto was smacking him with combos from hell. Just because you win, it doesn’t mean your better. Margo just took punches and when cotto tired out, he finished him, you call that better? Dela hoya was winning against hopkins, hopkins throws a liver shot, dela hoya goes down, that makes hopkins better? Big z, what is so superior about margo? That he won cuz the other boxer tired out? His legs were gone so margo to advantage as he should and won? Landed 27% of his punches compared to cotto who landed 47% of his punches and margo is superior? Don’t think so bro, margo just happend to win. If cotto had the stamina (mind you, he doesn’t move and weave for all 12 rounds)he would have beaten margo by out pointing him. Let’s keep it real, just cuz you beat a team the yankees don’t mean your superior.
Chill out there tough guy don’t get mad at me because Cotto lost. No i’m not Mexican, i’m like you A Boriqua who loves boxing. And on Saturday the 26th Puerto Rico got beat by Mexico. You just got to take it bro, don’t be a soar loser. Margarito was the better figther that night, if he wasn’t he wouldn’t of won… if Cotto was so good like you say he is he would of never fell and gave up. And remember it was Cotto’s corner (boriqua’s) who threw in the towel papi! don’t be a soar loser… it’s what boxing’s all about!!! great fights and upsets! they are both great fighters, but Margarito was the BETTER fighter at the end of the night. Throw statistics out the window, fuck the what if shit. FACT is Cotto gave up, his corner gave up, and Margarito was the champ at the end of the boxing night. IT’s papi, love the sport, give the fighters their props and don’t be a soar loser. Cotto will get another W for all the boriquas don’t trip. I’m pretty sure a lot of REAL boxing fans will agree with me.
I don’t watch too much boxing but what i saw on saturdays was just a boriqua getting cornered up by a mexican who never looked tired at all !!!!!Margarito had a gameplan the since the beginning and he stuck with it….many people underestimated this guy but at the end of the night he showed that he can fight with the big dawgggsss….and that’s why floyd mayweather jr…rejected the fight against margarito because he knew margarito was determined to beat on him tooo..cotto will bounce back eventually…but you gotta give it up to the mexican who came out on top at the end of the night…and No he’s not going to be fighting oscar de la hoya!!!!
Anonymous first off Cotto didn’t get tired , Margarito made him tired by beating up them Gutz !! Second i am mexican but i am no means a puerto rican hater !! For you to say Cotto would’ve gotten a victory if he kept bobbing and weaving for 12 rounds that was never going to be an option , Margarito went to the body and took the life and lungs outta MIguel COtto ….running for 12 rounds was COtto’s plan from the get !! did you not watch the blue print Paul Williams laid out !! The difference in the Cotto Fight and the Williams fight is that Margorito acknowledged his mistake went out from round 1 , he lost rounds earlier in the fight because of Cotto’s boxing skill , but he still executed his plan . It was only a matter of time he continued to touch those ribs . Please stop making excuses on what Cotto could have done and just realize you witnessed one of the most
brutal beatings given to a great fighter in a long time . Margarito is no joke acknowledge it !! He not only beat the so called Up and coming welterwieght Star in Miguel Cotto ………he humiliated Miguel Cotto !!
A beat down is a beat down !! you can’t say anything to me that justify’s or validates in your own mind that Cotto was going to win that fight nothing !!
so take your lumps and move on !
YA CARAJO YA CALLENSE LA BOCA CONIO!!Y RECONOSCAN QUE EL MEJICANO LE SAKO LA MIERDA AL BORIQUA!!ME LLEGAN TODOS AL PINCHE!!!YA CALLA MIERDA!!!
Big Z on behalf of all the REAL boxing fans, I agree 100% with what you are saying. When it comes to someone getting TKO! There are no percentages or statistics…. Miguel Cotto got TKO’d!!! and would have been KNOCKED OUT to the ground if his corner didn’t throw in the towel !!!
Calm down Kangri you ain’t gotta get all Peruano!
B! Real boxing fans/sports fans disect the sport. Mad at you,I don’t even know you bro, but I am debating the fight. That’s what we’re here for. Margo was better cuz he won, guess so but for big z to say superior? Na b, not close. Tougher, guess so but not superior. Cotto’s coner threw in the towel, why, so cotto could die? When pac man destroyed berrea,the corner didn’t want berrera seriously hurt either. There is no way margo was winning the fight. Chavez/taylor, real boxing fans know exactly what I’m talking about with that statement. This fight was close to what when on in the fight. Its all gravy son, but you know its not always so black and white and in my opinion,this fight was not all black and white.big z, aint no excuse’s, just disecting of the fight. I didn’t think margo started early cuz if he did then cotto is quicker then we all think cuz that 1st 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th maybe 8th definately 10th cotto was out pointing margo. How could it not be an option if cotto would have lasted 12 rounds. He could have, its not impossible. It just didn’t happened. I am allowed to defend my favorites fighters, right? Just like my favorites happen to be paul williams, isreal vasquez, marquez brothers. Margo fighting anyone from next weeks fight is dum and as far as fighting pavlik? C’mon b! That’s like 3 different weight classes, no way you can see that in the near future. That’s like 12 to 18 lbs more for margo, you can’t be serious.
Shit my boy Roy Jones did it B!!!!B!!!!!B!!!! puta mare ya calla mierda!!! ok we all know you a cotto fan!!! ME LLEGAS AL PINCHE DE VERDAD CON TUS WUEWADAS!!! YA CALLATE CONCHA TU MARE!!!
The truth is Floyd Mayweather didnt have the balls to fight Margarito or even Oscar De la Hoya didnt have the balls either. Well Paul Williams is like an inch taller than Margarito and has long arms. Cintron lasted 6 rounds against Margarito. While Cotto is only 5′7 and gave his skills and heart out there against a taller longer reach version of himself. I was shocked that Cotto didnt fire as much body shots because Margarito probly stunned him. If Floyd fought Margarito only time will tell how many rounds he ‘ll last. Floyd even got rocked by Hatton. Floyd retired coz he was scared of Cotto.
Only reason im dissapointed is because im from PR and I really wanted Cotto to win but I knew what was in for Cotto. Cotto will come back from this loss and retain his belt, its obvios that he will look back at the fight and see what he did wrong, even though he was flawless from the rounds 1thru 6. I dont take anything away from Margarito, he is a very good boxer and has a VERY big heart….And another thing that I noticed is that PR fighters normally start off slow and when that bell ringed it looked like Cotto was desparate to make sure the fight was over in 5 rounds. Patience was the key to victory and Margarito was full of it. I tipp my hat off to Margarito for a courageous fight and im looking foward to see a rematch.
Papa! I thought you were boriqua? Now you talkig like a mexi! Lol! Fuck roy! Your roy jones is the most over rated boxer. Never fought anybody! Then he said, fuck it and never fought in that weight class again! Maricon boxing fans, oh wait, my bad, real boxing fans. Lmao!pendejo que son!lol!
Marcos, I can buy that, margo had patience, but he can offord to cuz of his chin. Honestly, wasn’t it beautiful to see cotto fight the way he did in the begining? It was masterful, if he only was able to finish.
HAHAHA… Calla mierda!!! At least Roy actually did it!!! can Miguel do that??? hahahaha don’t b butthurt cause your boy loss!! Starrdog: uhhh cotto had more punches and the percentage was high so according to my calculations that would of made cotto win if it went to 12 rounds!!! hahaha… you sound like a bitch… get over it Cotto lost! his percentages and stamina or whatever the hell you was talking about had nothing to do with his ass getting knockd out! IF YOU WATCHED THE FIGHT THEY WERE SAYING BY THE TIME COTTO WAS KNOCKED OUT MARGARITO WAS UP IN THE SCORECARDS. 2 JUDGES HAD HIM 96-94 AND THE OTHER EVEN AT 95. if his corner didn’t throw in the towel you really think he would of came back and KO’d margarito, because that was his only chance of winning…. not happenning!!! sorry lil man! YOU LOOSE!!! HAHAHAHA calla mierda!
Wetback! Your talking mad shit. None of which I mention. I never said if cottos corner didn’t stop it that cotto had a chance of knocking him out. The score cards were totally bias, cotto if he lasted was going to get robbed anyway cuz margo didn’t win that many rounds by the 11th.puta! You clearly don’t know shit about boxing cuz all your points that you make are weak.just saw an post interview with margo nd he even said 95% of mexicans didn’t believe he could do it. Just like you, homie.so dry your back cuz that’s about the only thing you know how to do. Bro! Get off margos dick, it aint that big. Your just a jump on the barn wagon kind of fan. I bet an old fight for you is barrera/morales 3. Young buck, get margos balls out of your mouth, ya tu soba. Cuz that’s what your doing, stroking it to the name margarito, aye bonito, green card holding fagot!
THIS IS FOR REAL BOXING FANS NOT FOR IGNORANNT LATINOS TALKING NONSENSE OF EACH OTHER. BOXING FANS TALK ABOUT BOXING RACIST TALK ABOUT RACE, HERMANO.
cotto was overated he barely beat an old shane mosely and if zab judah fought more than 4 rounds a fight he would have beat cotto. That leaves one conclusion we still can’t find a fighter who will give mayweather a challenge
Ricky, bro, only defending myself, read and see who cast the 1st stone. I was just expressing my opinion on the fight and the fightr I was pulling for. Homie went off on me so I got to counter back.respect gets respect.
Mayweather is out of the equation, he retierd.chicken boy floyd had some big fights coming that he knew he would have a hard time wining. Not saying he would definatelly lose, but good chnce he might.
Chavez v. Camacho…V for the Mexican, Chavez v. Rosario…V for the Mexican, Sanchez v. Gomez V. for the Mexican, Gomez v. Zarate…V for the Puerto Rican, De La Hoya (American of Mexican parents) v. Trinidad…V for the Puerto Rican, Cuevas v. Espada…V for the Mexican (3 times), Margarito v. Cotto…V for the Mexican. I know I must have missed some other great fights between these two countries, but let’s remember that there are probably 15 million Boriquas in the whole world compared to 120 million Mexicanos in the world. Say what you want, but I love this rivalry. By the way, my best friend in the Corp (and in life) is a Boriqua, and so is my wife (don’t tell her I posted this or there’ll be one more Mexican on the canvas!
1st off .. a lot of ya sound real ignorant. I am Puerto Rican & of course I would’ve wished that Cotto would’ve won, BUT Margo did his thing & won .. he was the better boxer THAT NIGHT, but he is not THE BETTER BOXER. Cotto fought a GREAT fight & he stayed in it till the very end, so he’s still a champ!! so don’t sleep on him, cause he’ll be back & better than b4!! GOO COTTO !!!
To Marcos Esteban, as much as I hope Cotto comes back, I’m reminded of Meldrick Taylor who was a gold medal winner in the Olympics yet after he fought Julio Cesar Chavez – and lost – he was never the same. In fact, the two fights (Chavez-Taylor – Margarito-Cotto) have a lot in common. Two incredible stylists with punching power and fabulous careers (Taylor and Cotto) againest two aggressive “take two punches to throw one” type fighters that were experts at attacking the body relentlessly and never taking a step back. The outcomes are very similar. I really hope that Cotto can come back. History says that it will be a very tough road.
yea im puerto rican but and trust me i think all hispanics r tha bomb but still cotto is a way better fighter than margarito and no not becuase hes mexican just becuase every one knows that puerto ricans and mexicans r the worlds greatest race rivals!becuese hes just a better boxer and is it true that margarito was stripped of his belt cuz of drug test!that would b a real disappointmant.if they haf a rematch which they will margaritos gonna get his ass handed too him cuz cottos gonna b better than ever!
It is easy to say, “I always believed Cotto was over hyped-up.”
I said before the fight that I thought Cotto would be knowcked-OUT! I thought this because he was protected twice before in two different fights… I can’t really believe he cheated. Yet, as a fighter myself… I saw that Cotto’s head, not just his chin, was suspect because he showed me that when he was caught by a HEAVY handed fighter who would sustain a steady attack… he would fold!
Cotto demonstrated that he could and would beat you up… AND if and when you feared him and cowered concentrated on staying SAFE…. as you hit him and concentrated less on hitting him good, stategically, and hard… hitting him hard to hurt him, rather staying out of harm’s way yourself.
Margarito fought for real.
Margarito was not looking to perform nicley… he was not just there to dance and box. He was looking to show Cotto that he is definitely – tougher.
Cotto was strategically brought to this point… and this fight ended exactly how is should have and will always be.
Cotto is a world class fighter.
Margarito is tailor-made to beat fighters like Cotto.
I bet anything and everything… that should Cotto fight Margarito again – The same will happen.
It is like one great fighter – “I will beat him any day of the week!”
This is not to disrespect Cotto… He will beat most fighters… just not the courageous, tough and smart ones like Margarito.
Somebody is gonna hurt somebody when you throw that many power shots. Margarito hurt Cotto first only because Cotto stayed on the ropes in the 5th and 6th taking way too many upper cuts. Plus Margarito has a face that can’t be cut with a butcher knife… seems like. After you hurt somebody AND cut their face its down hill. Unless you fight smart… I still don’t know why Cotto didn’t just wrap up… like Mayweather does… eventhough Mayweather would beat both these guys… he can’t knock either of them out. He doesn’t have enough power
To that guy who said that COTTO did not have enough heart for this fight. You don’t know what the hell you are talking about. Margarito is a hard punching dude and has great resistance. I bet you are a fat guy that hasn’t done exercise in a while. It was the 11th round and COTTO was throwing punches all through the fight. He was also receiving hard punches through the fight. He took a knee when it was just too hard to handle. He tried his best and I applaud him because of his effort and gladiator skills. He did what he did and received a lot of Margaritos punches because he also wanted to give fans a show.
Hopefully Cotto does not disappear. He is a true Champion and boxing needs him right now. He is young and with just one defeat that came from a great fighter named Antonio Margarito. That no one wanted to fight. Only Miguel A. Cotto fought him. So remember that. I hope he recovers soon and gets another belt. Then they should go at it once again hopefully by the middle or end of 2009.
Mayweather is a great boxer, but he hasn’t proven shit. Fight Margarito even Fight COTTO. Mayweather was a great boxer, but he is a showman who doesn’t want to get hurt and we should stop mentioning him. Leave him alone he is probably having a few cocktails enjoying life without being a boxer.
Roquisi, thank you! No heart? Wow! and to vallee margarito couldn’t dance and box if he wanted to. You say your a fighter right, so how can you talk about moving and boxing like its a bad thing when at the core of prize fighting, make the guy miss,punish him for it is the foundation of boxing! Cotto did that beautifully.
Hey usc man! don’t forget vargas vs tito! At the time, vargas was a big mexican favorite for his brawling style.vargaa also had a heart of a lion.the beating he took was crazy but fought with honor!
Ok now that I have accepted alittle bit more cotto losing. What is next for margo? Do you think he will face paul williams again? Does he fight the winner of the judah/clottey fight? Is dela hoya in the picture? I don’t think he will move up in weight because I think he would have done that a long time ago. I don’t think there will be a rematch with cotto, at least not yet. Carlos quintana is also a posibility.ricky hatton is not good at 147lbs so I don’t think that would happen. Mayweather even though retired could feel the pre$$ure to comeback and be forced to face the tornado. Mosley is still in the mix. It should be really intresting to see what would happen in the next 2 fights for margo. As for cotto, I see him fighting again sometime next year, unless dela hoya goes with cotto for his last fight and cotto takes it. Cotto will probably fight 1-2 opponets to build up confidence before fighting a top boxer.
Roquisi! I agree with you a 100%
This turned into one of the most ignorant discussions ever on wax heaven, sorry Mario, i know you like boxing and all
Lol!
I hate to break it to all you cotto fans but margarito was not just
being a brawler in the ring ?? the problem is that nobody is praising or appreciating all the body work margarito did to take the life outta Cotto
you guy’s think that wasn’t beautiful ……that ..that kinda punishment wasn’t skillful or calculated or planned or plotted ………what because he was willing to take shots from Cotto he was just doing it and there was no skill involved there?
Give me a break !! Margarito came into that ring with a plan to break Miguel Cotto down and carried it out beautifly …….HE truly is a classic Mexican Fighter
with heart …..i think the thing that stands out regarding Margarito is his physical prowess ……..had Paul Willams not been such a freak of nature at 147
he wins that fight ….. at 147 it’s going to be hard for anyone to beat margarito
i think that not only did the williams fight show that but the cotto fight proved
it ! Let’s give credit where credit is due the man fought a masterful fight !!
he will follow it up with another great victory to validate my point !
you will see
Good points. But I just don’t see taking shots to the face as masterful. I think margo thought,”this guy is more talented then me, I think I can take his shots. If I can, I’ll tire him out and pull a victory”,and it happend for him. As far as proving how great he is in his next fight, that’s too easy if he fights the winner of judah/clotty. He’s gonna be the champ for a while, unless the money doesn’t make him hungry anymore.no excuse’s for cotto, then no excuse’s for margo, paul the punisher beat him. Regardless weather he started slow, that’s his fault. Margo is the champ and the guy to beat right now.
all you mexicans and cotto haters talking all that crap cotto still the better figther. And for you mexicans the last time i checked puerto ricans have won more matches boricuas still on top. i say cotto comes back takes the I. b. f
Question to all you Cotto fans? Who is next for Cotto? what match would be come back fight? Margarito fans i’ve been reading a lot that De La Hoya is pretty much going to take the Pacman. so who is next for Margarito? And to all boxing fans what do you think of De La Hoya VS Pacquiao?
As for cotto, it would probably be a no name opponent. Might even be in puerto rico. As for margarito, anyone from carlos quintana,paul williams,judah,clotty, mosley. Floyd is a long shot since he duct margo 1x already. So the money has got to be right. Margo also needs to talk smack to get him out. Dela hoya vs pac-man, I’m not sure of. Golden boy has to come down and pac man up another weight class. I think golden boy finds a way to be manny. Just my opinion.
I agree with you on the Cotto fight. I was reading on fightnews.com that he wants to fight one more time in 2008. No opponent has been named. It’d be cool to see Margarito get revenge and try to defeat Paul Williams. The winner between Judah and Clotty would have no chance against Margarito. Mosley would be a pretty good match up. I know this probably won’t happen but since I hate Ricardo Mayorga I would love to see Margarito punish him. lol. I’m pretty sure De La Hoya and Pacman is more likely to happen since it would be a big money maker. Thanks for the responses everyone!!!
GREAT FIGHT! IM RICAN IVE GOT TO SAY MARGARITO BEAT COTTO FAIR THE GUY IS AWESOME IM A NEW FAN OF MARGARITO HOPE HE GOES FAR AND IM PROUD OF COTTO FOR THE EFFORT AND HARD WORK .
i think there;s is some enhancement drug in margarito.s corner
cotto beat him self up no body shot plan was all wrong margarito is a bum you cannot throw a thousand shots per fight and not get tired comeon people are stupid to beleive that
don’t count cotto out remember he did not shot any body shot so that gave marg a shot to do some uppercut but if cotto would have shot body hook marg would not be so free to shot uppercuts, or he would have paid the price, not to knock mex’s but you can hit amex all day on the head nothing will happen but once you hit the body they will go down look at history
some thing is wrong with cotto they should come out with it i first notice it with zab then saw it with mosly and then gomez no killer instincts
i agree with joe lets let cotto rest let him go abck to his style combo body and head marg will never see abelt again from cotto. let the cotto clan make up you’ll see cotto back.
jim lamply is a ass hole
Lol!why is lamply an a-hole? Lol
no matter what still a cotto fan i would love to see a reamatch
remember ali he took alot of punches to the head big time marg has a limit, plus i don’t see it as a lost but a delay in cotto’s life i had a feeling that cotto was going to lose you could see it in the zab fight the fatigue i know cotto style it’s like a structural fatigue like in a building when it get’s hit with wind it move giving way cotto either got hit to much on the left side of the head or was being work out too much. to me this is a long eight count for cotto God willing he’ll be back strorger than before. who ever desided to fight marg was wrong cotto needed the rest, cotto was like cock work for me i knew when cotto was going to fight every three months check it out,the bigger the fighter the longer the rest, people marg fans something is wrong with cotto they are not saying nothing, the doc on mosly fight wanted to check cotto out, but because it was a title fight the doc did not push it, cotto corner said to the doc, let me do my job,that’s why am here for, not long in the fight cotto starts to back up, you don’t have to be knock out to be hurt, a unseen fracture cotto took some heavy shots to the head way back pass zab mosly with big fights come more rest, 4 to 5 months to heal that’s cotto’s trainer have to take care of him cotto has to let then take care of him, he got to get away from the hot temperatures, go to cooler climates, to much heat keeps the bones solf, cold makes them hard and tight. to me marg is a nobody has not fought anybody big just paul, paul beat him, cotto he beat cotto true a win is a win which ever way you can win, but i say but,cotto beat him self by not fighting his fight, going to the body marg wouldnot have time to ajust to cotto body shot, if they have a rematch, cotto corner has to go back to the old cotto style body shots, first fight cotto corner knows not to go to the head but to the body work up even marg orner knows the plan, you just can’t stop it, cotto’s corner better start showing cotto toweave again, p.s. let cotto’s brother find another trainer it’s messing cotto’s head up plus don’t show the world your problems on the air, cotto show his uncle love in the old days by kissing him on the face, i dd not see that that on the mosly fight when he won, but gave him a mean look that hurt me, you can see there is a problem get all that straight.
Joey: sorry but Cotto will never be the same just like David Reid and Fernando Vargas after Trinidad…..Cotto took a beating both physically and mentally & no way Cotto beat himself- Margarito did. He fought masterful for the first 6-7 rounds but Marg. was and is a machine and slowly but surely broke him down to the point he ran away and took knees. BE REAL and stop making excuses….Cotto would of beaten any other Welterweight in the world not named Margarito. GIVE THE MAN HIS DUE!!!! EVEN IF MARG WAS A NOBODY (which he is not) I GUESS COTTO GOTS WHOPPED BY A NOBODY..CALL WHAT IT IS BUT HE’S THE UNDISPUTED WELTER KING.
bkallday i see you are a marg fan , but you can say what you want, but when marg fought paul he lost, who was beat by quintana who lost to cotto , case in point joe louis vs max schmelling in the first fight schmelling beat louis, yet louis the champ was rhe favorite to win but was k.o. second fight, first round joe k.o. max’s your man escaped with out body shot, you and i can argue but it will not change my mind marg is lucky that he even got a shot with cotto after his lose to paul marg has 5 loses cotto 1 marg is not invincible nor king of the welter weight if anybody is king it would be mayweather, paul, clottey,cotto than marg, remember marg has 5 loses and is capable to be knock out, out of all the upper welterweight’s in the world marg has the highest percentage lose, that tell’s me that marg has a weakness if cotto get’s a shot again with marg, cotto will find his weakness and capitilize on it cause a true boxer is patient and a good timer, marg is not a good boxers nor a good timer, he is what he is a pure brawler a machine no style right up the middle, don’t know why cotto did not hit marg with his bread and butter shot hook to the body. I beleive that if cotto would have hit him with the hook to body marg would not have shot the uppercut that much,that’s why i say cotto beat him self, it is as if he fought with one arm, and anyway cotto was winning the fight in the cards, remember olympian track star who won gold metal, and they did not find enhancement drug in her blood after she won gold how did she do it? marg show sign’s of some in enhancement, because he has in some fight’s started so slow and pick up speed in the later round, after being beaten up and boom come out like a rocket like he’s high on something and throw over a thousand shot, is his cut man giving him something in the Qtip water mouthpiece that’s not normal, clottey, luna, cotto, come on, only for cotto 900 change shot’s clottey, luna, thousand shots, that’s not even counting thatshot marg get’s hit with and still keep’s coming on like if he’s high on cocaine, and when he start’s slow like a downer, but in the fight boom in the 5 to 7 round that’s when it happen’s check his fight record, cotto tag his head over 80 percent my man should have knock out same with clottey, clottey broke both hand’s someone should check marg out and the corner, a person can not keep taking shot to the head like that God forbid you know.
jim lamply is prejudice of pr’s
Joey; i am a Marg. fan as well as Cotto but an even bigger fan of boxing itself. I have respected Cotto who has gotten better each fight but again…I must tell you that Marg. will not lose to him and has his number all day just like forrest vs mosley…marg. vs cintron…pavlik vs taylor. Marg’s style is to much for him to handle at 5′7 and his chin and stamina are just way to much. There is a reason that guys avoided him for so long. Marg is tough as nails and will bring that same style in a rematch on top along with the mental edge of a tko win over him. Dam you gotta think Cotto hit him with crazy shots and he didnt budge all night. Paul Williams is good but Marg. learned from his first fight and will not start slow… i like clottley and think he’s a bigger danger. But on the real stop with them excuses and except the fact that your man got whooped….and handed his pride on a platter. Atleast I know Marg. would of went out in a stretcher than have his dear uncle come in and throw in the towel. Cotto went out like a 2008 “No Mas”…all flash but no back up…and then he ran to dresser instead of giving the man his due on camera. BE REAL JOEY…LEAVE THEM EXCUSES ALONE>
YOU MUST BE MEXICAN, CAUSE FOR YOU TO DIRECT YOUR ANSWER TO ME I MUST BE GETTING THROUGH TO YOU, YES YOU BRING SOME GOOD POINTS, EVEN GOOD PROOF OF RECENT FIGHTS, BUT AS TIME AND TIME AGAIN WE HAVE SEEN THIS SCENE PLAY OUT TO BOTH OUR FAVOR, BUT IT SEEMS THAT YOU HAVE THE UPPER HAND WITH MARG VICTORY, I SEE SOMETHING IN THREE PARTS OF COTTO COMING OUT ON TOP IF HE REMATCHES MARG, ONE YOU KNOW BODY SHOT WILL BE THERE, TWO NOT THE HEAD HUNTER HE WAS IN THE FIRST FIGHT, THREE HE WILL GO FORWARD NOT BACK, COTTO GOT BEAT UP YES, BUT NOT TO THE POINT WERE IT HIT HIS SOUL. I’LL TELL YOU WHY , BECAUSE HE WALKED OFF THE RING NOT GIVING THIS MAN’S DUE ‘S I READ THIS AS A SIGN AGAIN, THAT THE FIGHT HE FOUGHT WAS THE FIGHT MARG WANTED, MARG WANTED COTTO TO GO AFTER HIS HEAD AND COTTO WANTED TO GO AFTER MARG HEAD WHY BECAUSE HE WANTED TO BE THE FIRST MAN TO BEAT MARG BY A KNOCK OUT TO THE HEAD BUT HE FAILED. HE BEAT HIM SELF BY PUNCHING HIM SELF OUT. I HAVE SEEN MEX’S GET HIT IN THE HEAD ALL THEY DAY LONG AND NOTHING, GETTING BACK TO MY POINT OF COTTO NOT GIVING THE MAN HIS DUE IS BECAUSE HE WAS ANGRY THAT HE COULD NOT DO IT. HIS PRIDE WOULD NOT LET HIM . BECAUSE HE BELEIVES THAT MARG SHOULD NOT HAVE WON THIS FIGHT. WHEN A PERSON LOSES HE HUMBLES HIM SELF TO THE WINNER, HE WOULD SAY GOOD FIGHT. YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE STAMINA I NOTICE THAT IN THE LATE ROUNDS WITH ZAB AND MOSLY BACKING OFF, EVEN WITH GOMEZ HE DID NOT HAVE THAT KILLING DRIVE HE BACKED OFF. STAMNA YOU COULD WORK THAT OUT. SIZE IS NOTHING IN BOXING, LOOK AT MIKE TYSON SMALL JOE FRAZIER SMALL. COME ON, PLUS HE DID NOT GET HIT (AGAIN)WITH BODY SHOTS. MENTAL EDGE ANGER CAN HANDLE THAT, HE SHOW IT WHEN HE DID NOT GIVE HIM HIS DUE’S. THE ONE THING I DID NOT LIKE WAS THE BID YOU SAID ABOUT THE UNCLE, THAT’S NOT NICE, THAT’S FAMILY, REMEMBER IT’S EASY TO SAY THING’S LIKE THAT WHEN YOU ARE ON THE TOP BUT NOT WHEN YOU’LL IN THE BOTTOM. ONLY GOD KNOW;S WHO IS GOING TO WIN I WANT COTTO TO WIN YOU WANT MARG TO WIN, COTTO IS NO PUNK HE FOUGHT MARG, AT THE FIRST CALL NOT LIKE OTHERS WE KNOW, I KNOW YOU ARE NO FAN OF COTTO OR OF BOXING CAUSE IF YOU WERE A FAN OF COTTO OR BOXING YOU WOULD NOT BRING IN THE TOWEL BID, AS IF IT WAS A JOKE TO SAY, DEAR UNCLE THROW THE TOWEL, YOU CAN MAKE EXCUSES FOR MARG WITH PAUL WHO STILL LOSE, AND SAY HE LEARNED TO START FASTER, BUT I CAN’T MAKE EXCUSES FOR COTTO REASON FOR LOSING AND THAT HE WILL LEARN LIKE WISE THAT HE WILL START TO THE BODY SHOTS, IS NOT YOUR EXCUSE VALID FOR MARG, YOU HAVE TO CARE FOR BOTH FIGHTER HEALTH AND WELL BEING, THAT IS THE TRUE MEANING OF A TRUE FAN AND LOVER OF SPORTS CARE, I WOULD NOT LIKE TO SEE MARG OR ANYBODY GO OUT IN A STRETCHER, THAT’S WHY WE GOT REF’S AND RING DOCTOR TO STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING, REMEMBER THIS IS SOMEONE FAMILY, IT’S ONLY A SPORT,AND A HARD ONE, WE SIT HOME AND ENJOY THIS SPORT OF BOXING, THEY GO HOME DAMAGED, COTTO IS MY BOY, MARG IS YOURS.
REMATCH BEST MAN WIN’S
P.S. IF REMATCH BEST MAN WIN’S
LAST TWO COMMENT’S ARE JOEY’S NOT ANONYMOUS FOR GOT TO PRINT NAME.
Bkallday.it seems that every margo fan is telling cotto fans not to make excuses but,margo fans are making excuses for margo losing to paul by saying,”he learned from his mistake’s, he won’t start slow next time” you don’t think if a re-match happens cotto won’t learn from HIS mistakes? I know you guys don’t like to hear this because you all didn’t think margo was going to pull it of when you saw cotto teaching margo how to BOX. Cotto’s mistake? Lack of body shots, STAMINA! A few body shot here and there but most importantly, stamina, and cotto wins by a perfect display of boxing technic. If you guys think margo started off quick against cotto, then cotto had floyd mayweather speed because cotto made margo look SLOW! Margo’s plan was to keep up with cotto until he tired out, then finish him off and pull a victory. What game plan is that? He is the champ but again, the best man did not win and in sports the best team/boxer/race driver doesn’t always win, Ali/frazier. Yankees/red sox. Cotto didn’t have 2 to 3 rounds more in him because he lacks stamina. Margo didn’t knock out cotto. Cotto took 2 knees from exhaustion. Cotto fought a beautiful fight. Margo was black and white as always, take hits march on, boxer gets tired, pull out a victory. Nothing special about him. Mayweather will destroy margarito! I hate to say it but its true! Mayweather is FAST! Has better defense, and has stamina. He will make margo look super slow. Margo’s chin and stamina won’t be a factor because he won’t be able to catch floyd or tire him out. So floyd wins by points. Paul laid out the blue print to defeat margo.easy plan it is if you can have the stamina to BOX 12 rounds. As for the streghter thing. Man, you aint the one getting hit. Barbearic days all long gone. I love this sport too much to see things like that. His uncle knew his nephew had lost. No need to kill him. Live to fight another day. I’m sure margo wants to live another day. These guys have kids who love them dearly, did you see cotto’s son? Didn’t that break your heart? If It didn’t, your soul-less. I felt bad for judah! I knew cotto destroyed him. No need to keep going. I was yelling at the tv for the ref to stop it. Judah is a man with kids. No need for cotto 2 hurt him even more. Cotto will be back. Margo is the champ right now and boxing is still the best! Congrats margo! Cotto! We love you! Can’t wait to see you fight again! Fuelte como el hatcha y machete!
By the way, cotto DID give margarito his props. Watch the fight again. At the end cotto touches gloves with margo,smiles,and tells him a few words then walks out. I don’t think cotto fans aren’t giving margo his props. I just think that cotto fans saw cotto with the fight in the bag, they just didn’t think cotto would tire out at the end. Cotto won the 10th round decisevly. The gets tko in the 11th. He tired out. Even in the 11th cotto threw some vicisious shots befor going down, the last gas in the tank befor surcoming to exhustion.
Oh dam! I mis spelled a few words! Lol! I know, I know, before, subcoming, etc. Sorry.lol
The fat lady spoke and Cottos Invincibility was touched. Understand that-that was his penchment…it was a grueling war for both fighters but Marg. triumphed with his black and white style over cotto’s flash. There is no denying Cottos skills over Margo’s but styles make fight and it dont matter how pretty you look or looked even you dont win the prize…ask the 18-0 Patriots when the Giants ended that mystique. Cotto’s head will never be the same..prior to the fight he was already thinking retirement saying he would probably retire within a few more fights..so now with this it tilts the scales some more. Look at it at the standpoint..Cotto hit him with crazy shots- out boxed him- took 6-7 rds and still wilted…think about what was running through his mind when everyone prior to that was Marg. would fold with them shots and Marg. still pressed him. Say what you want but Marg. with the 5 losses is champ and that win has only made him more hungrier. Marg’s the champ now and whatever ya’ say is irrelevant because he showed all ya’ wrong already…and i’m have pr myself and must speak the truth.
oh yeah and that was me who just wrote that for ya’.
I AGREE WITH BKALLDAY ON THAT ONE CUZ FIGHTS OVER AND BOTTOM LINE IZ HE GOT WHOPPED BAD BY MARGARITO MAN. 4GET PAUL WILLIAMS CUZ HE AINT CHAMP AND MARGARITO LEARNED FROM THAT + COTTO AINT LOSE TO WILLIAMS HE LOST TO MARGO SO THERE IS NO POINT IN MESSING WITH THAT. MOST IMPORTANTLY COTTO DID ALL HE COULD TO WIN AND DISPLAYED GREAT SKILL AND POISE BUT LOST TO A HUNGRYER FIGHTER. I WAS JUST HAPPY TO FOR MARGO TO GET HIS DUE AFTER BEING AS GOOD AS HE WAS AND NOT GET PROPS THAT LESSER FIGHTERS GOT. IN A REMATCH IT’LL BE SAME RESULT. I CANT SEE COTTO GETTING PASSED A STEEL CHIN AND RELENTLESS ATTACK>>> CUZ NOONE MENTIONED THAT MARGO BROKE HIM DOWN WIT PRESSURE AND MAD BODY SHOTS. A MILLION EXCUSES ONLY EQUALS ONE RESULT AND THAT IS THAT HE WHOPPED HIM. ONLY THING I DISAGREE WIT BKALLDAY IS THAT COTTO GAVE MARG PROPS!!! BY KNEELING TWO TIMES TO BLESS HIM….LOL//
OH YEAH AND LAST TIME I CHECKED I MEAN IF WE ALL SAW THE SAME FIGHT IS THAT COTTO AINT SUBCOME TO EXHAUSTION IT WAS MARGOS RELENTLESS ATTACK. WHAT YA DIDNT SEE THEM UPPERCUTS THAT BLOODIED HIS FACE LIKE AND BODY SHOTS THAT PUT HIM THERE . GIMME A BREAK GUYS YOUR IGNORANCE IS CRAZY. REAL FANS ARE BIASED TO THERE FAVORITE FIGHTERS THEY SPEAK THE TRUTH. MARGO HURT COTTO LIKE 4-5X IN THAT FIGHT.
I think the fight was one of the best fights we’ve seen in the last two years. Cotto was superb at picking and landing his power shots but on the other hand you had Margarito chasing him down taking shots as he’s coming in. That’s showing he’s got Tremendous heart getting hit & still coming. I didnt have an idea of who would win although i did want margarito to win. People are going to think im talking shit now because of what i say next. I honestly and truely do not think ither of dese two Remarkable champions would defeat Floyd Mayweather. Cotto hasn’t really got a chin like Margarito and Floyd’s punches are so accurate, quick and powerful. Mayweather has definatly got a chance of knocking Miguel out. On the other hand if he was to come out of retirement and go ahead to fight Margarito, that would be very interesting. Floyd would not beable to knock out Antonio but he could definatly out box him with is hands & smartness.
Enough of Floyd anyway because this is about Cotto & Margarito. I would like to see a rematch. I think it was a very good fight and it was entertaining for all us fight fans. The Puerto Rico and Mexican War will never end in boxing.
starrdog you are a conartist or who ever you are? cotto’s pride hurt him. I am not arguing who won, I know marg won, a win is a win, but don’t use the giant and pat’s, that’s still in the air, we can stay all day with that, did they cheat? (video), anyway as I think more about this fight, it tell me how cotto lost and how marg won, remember it was a tko not ko, what in the world was cotto corner thinking by having this fight in out west with a bunch of mex’s fans. that play’s on your head, cotto was the champ, should had fought in msg, were there is pr people, cotto went against every thing he learn, home field avanatage, body shots amd miss chances, I don’t know about you but that’s not the cotto I know, that’s why I say how cotto lost, and for marg how he won, he was lucky, you can see cotto letting body shots go by, as for you, you say you are prican I don’t think so. I think you are mex’s cause the way you put cotto down man you are cold hearted to your own people, you can state your word’s, but not to drive the man down to the ground as to put him like a peice of garbage, what you saw and what I saw are two different thing’s you make it seem like marg can not be beaten even from the same guy, like if cotto lost something, ya his belt not his soul yo, ya marg won and and also lost lifr go’s on, but if a rematch cotto will win, look at dallas vs giant’s two loses yet beat them in the playoff’s don’t count cotto out, I’ll give you a example, I know a guy who was fighting another guy, and he fought him got hurt came
some how I got cut off , anyway came back fought until they stop, but the guy who lost, kept coming, go’s to show you that anger is very powerfull feeling it go’s deep the fight stop, if you are pr than see my point of view, if cotto would have fought the way he usually fight’s and lost I would not waste my time, anyway this is a old issue.
Joey, 1st of all, I never put cotto down. Read my page again. I think you got me confused with someone else. You call me a conartist? How? I’m the one who stated that the best team doesn’t always win. Who cares if the patriots cheated or not. They were the best team and lost to the giants!(which I was happy about).bkallday/fightfan, fightfan, your right, real boxing fans are biased to their favorite fighter. That’s why we have this forum to debate. I did say margo is the champ. But I also said the better fighter did not win. The tougher one did. Watch the fight this saturday again.see how many body shots landed from margo? A fighter that used his chin as a game plan is a fighter that lack evalution. A fighter on a fast track to getting hurt.you guys see margo as this boxing icon, are you serious. You all know that cotto’s skill was elevated to a higher level. Maybe if there is a rematch the outcome may be the same but, paul beat margo. Whay makes you think the out come won’t be the same again? By the way paul williams IS a champion. He beat quintana for the belt remember, “FIGT FANS”? No cotto fans are denying the fact that cotto lost. Cotto fans for the most part are disecting where cotto went wrong when he was doing so good in the fight. I gave margo his props! I said he is the champ and the guy to beat right now, but that’s as far as it goes. I’m gonna focus on one of my favorite fighters which happens to be cotto. Because even though he lost, he is the better,more talented,superior boxer/fighter,period! You ALL know this, man! You can all praise margo for taking punches on the chin and his stamina but a BOXER will beat him. If paul williams fights margo and boxes like he did the 1st time around,regaurdless of margo starting fast(which means 2-5 extra punches because he’s slow)paul will win, he did before and that is in “margos head”. Floyd can last 12 rounds, his superfast,is accurate, is a smart boxer, hmmmm, I think he wins.you can’t hit what you can’t catch. Cotto won 7 rounds that way. Body punches, no. Tired him out by walking him down, yes. Watch the fight again. Remember, cotto doesn’t fight the way he did against margo. But that is the way to beat margo. He had the right plan,just not enough gas to finish the fight. One last thing. If it was body punching, which we know hurts,then explain how cotto was able to throw viscious combos right before he took a knee? Don’t even mention zab beacuse zab was no longer a threat after the 4th to 5th round.he never threw a menecing shot after that. Again, a great fight but, the better did not win.
I wish mayweather came back! Money weather beats antonio hands down, no doubt! Cotto kept smacking him left and right. What you think is gonna happen if mayweather who is faster more accurate and has stamina gets in the ring with margarito? He gonna get smacked the fuck up! I’m sure after fighting cotto, margarito don’t want no part of money mayweather. He gonna want some crazy amount of money to get in the ring because if it happens, margarito is gonna know his time is up so you might as well get crazy pay for it.
I wish mayweather came back! Money weather beats antonio hands down, no doubt! Cotto kept smacking him left and right. What you think is gonna happen if mayweather who is faster more accurate and has stamina gets in the ring with margarito? He gonna get smacked the fuck up! I’m sure after fighting cotto, margarito don’t want no part of money mayweather. He gonna want some crazy amount of money to get in the ring because if it happens, margarito is gonna know his time is up so you might as well get crazy pay for it.
Whoever left the “I love Mayweather” comment above me is probably really in love with Mayweather. There’s got to be a reason why Floyyd retired at what 31??? the dude is scared… he wants to keep his perfect record and he saw a threat in all the up and coming fighters… You can’t tell me Maywheather wasn’t scared of Cotto?? Cotto will probably destroy Mayweather… so just imagine what Margarito will do to him!!! and I know he didn’t want none of my boy Oscar after seeing how he manhandled Stevie…. yeah Floyd beat him the last time… but where was the beat down Floyd promised De La Hoya??? where was the punishment he was going to give him… Oscar left the ring with a tiny bump in his ear probably… he just won because he got more hits in. Floyd is a pussy and I don’t blame him for retiring…. all he cares about is his perfect record. He’s not in it for the love of the sport.
Lmao! Yes I love the guy! He’s great! I’m sure he’s scared but after seeing these 2 fighters (cotto/margarito) expose themselves, mayweather I’m sure is more confident in beating margao. Cotto might be a problem if he gains some stamina. Margo can’t change his style, he will fight money may the same way he fought cotto and mayweather will tag him all night long all the way to the 12th round. Margo get your money cause when the money mayweather comes back, margarito is going back to mexico with a lot of money in his pocket but no gold around his waste.
Once again this clown is making me laugh. You serious dawg…. Mayweather is a sellout! Margo challenged him before, what’s up wit yo boy?? if it was a sure thing why didn’t he take it and “tag him to the 12th” like you say? he can do all that but he’ll never knock out a Margarito or a Cotto… it’ll go to the 12th cause unless you are Ricky Hatton then Mayweather ain’t knocking no one else out. Sorry Hatton fans… he was just to overated. The last time Mayweather knocked out someone before Hatton was against Sharmba Mitchel…. in 2005 playa. Dude running scared! This guy is a joke! And he know he running scared with Mayweather Sr. in my boy Oscar side. Unless he can proove us all wrong and come back and fight all these boxers then to me MAYWEATHER IS A BITCH!!!!!!
Yo fam! Its just my opinion. Why I got to be a clown fam? I knew my comment wouldn’t go well but think about it. Ocar is a different story. Margo aint no golden boy. Who cares who mayweather knocked out lately. He’s won. And you margarito fans are saying the same thing about the cotto fight. Whining and crying, saying,”who cares how margo won, he won,who cares cotto fought beautifully, margo won” WHO THE FUCK CARES HOW FLOYD WON, HE WON! Fagarito,opps,um I mean,margarito is no oscar dela hoya!
There’s no doubt that Margarito won, but Cotto died out in the later rounds from all the dancing around and just hitting Margarito in the face. No boxer can take out Margarito in the head and that’s why they say Marg has a granite chin, but the way Cotto could’ve won that fight even by a knockout is that he shold’ve went to the body because Marg is tall and slanky and not much muscle to his body he doesn’t muscle power in his body to take those devastating body killing punches to the ribs. That’s why Cotto should’ve won that fight he had plenty of oppurtunities to go to the body, but he went to the face to try and box and try to go the full 12 rounds, but he lost stamina to fast by dancing around and throwing punches to Marg’s head. Although in the fight Marg lived up to the hype of his “Granite chin” it just seems a little to weird that he can take all those punches to the head and still not be hurt, or worn down and still have the stamina to T.K.O. Cotto. Maybe it’s a drug, or performance enhancement drugs before, or during the fight because stamina doesn’t prevent a knockout, and i think you’re all aware that Cotto was by far the better boxer and should’ve won the fight with his most devastasting punch the left hook to the body more specifically the ribs. He should’ve remembered what got him his first 29 wins, and his first 25 KO’s not boxing destroying his enemies with his killer flurry of body punches, and hopefully there will be a rematch because Cotto wants one, and Margarito’s open for one, and if Cotto does get his rematch he’ll be stupid if he goes headhunting again against Margarito, but I count on it that Cotto will be going back to his original style and being the boxer that he became famous from.
for ya’ using the steroids bit as an excuse peep this one.
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=15215
so close off that excuse please.
hay, i’m a cotto fan too, if there’s a rematch cotto in 4 that’s it. light’s out, let’s cut out the bull with stamina bid, cotto’s body shot would have slow marg down a whole lot, give me a break, i fought fast strong guy’s way bigger than me, the one thing i did not do was body shot because i hit hard and knock them out, i know the type of fighter cotto is, marg too, marg try’s hard to seem hard core, but you can intimidate a person like that, ali, foreman, now it’s clottey’s turn, clottey in 7, next clottey will hurt paul 8,9 ko 10, mosly, 8 tko, clottey ko’s marg in 10, or decision, but will win, remember clottey went the distance, lost but had two broke hand’s. that’s your new champ.
Dmr, I aggree. I don’t know about the drug and performance drug thing but hey, you never know? Anything is possible.
Joey, I don’t know about that clottey prediction. I can see him beating judah because judah has a.d.d. But, beating margo? Ko or desicion? I think margo is riding too high right now, besides, been there done that, I don’t think margo would give him a rematch. Paul is to big for clottey. Besides we might not see paul fight at 147 again. I think the winner of judah/clottey will face either margo or cotto.intresting to see what happens next.
Mex fighter have great chins but they get helped a lot in boxing.(score cards) out in vegas, its mex country. Very hard for any other fighter to win in vegas. Referee steele helped chavez when he fought medrick taylor. 3 seconds left on the clock in the 12th round and they stop it. Taylor beat the count,3 seconds!!!! Then when mex fightrs get their ass kicked they cry and complain like bitches. Dela hoya/chavez. Golden boy was kicking his butt, busted him up and all chavez could do was complain! Pissed of dela hoya so much that the golden boy just came out the next round and wrecked him! Bererra/paquiao. Bererra got knocked down 4 times and all 4 times all he did was complain about pac man, why? Because he was putting you on your ass? That’s what he’s suppose to do! Margo/williams, wha wha wha! Margo saying, “you know I beat you” beat nothing! paul out boxed you cuz you can’t box and you looked stupid! The last 3 rounds don’t count in winning a fight if the other fighter had already won 8 to 9 rounds margo! Golden boy is mex/american, don’t root for him because you mex dis owned him a long time ago. So don’t say “oh that dela hoya/chavez fight was mex against mex” cuz you mex don’t like him! Mexican fighters never give credit when credit is due unless you win. All mex fighters do is cry when things don’t go thir way!
Alright bkallday I get it Marg didn’t use steroids, but i’m still sticking to my guns that Cotto took a horrible fighting plan to beat Marg by going to the head because there’s no fighter in the welterweight division probably that has the strength to knockout Marg in the head, and Cotto tried probably to take it the distance, or take him through the head for a K.O.
four more olympian’s have been strip of there gold for enhancement drug, how did they do it, how are they passing there urine test, vitiman, tea, vinegar, golden seal, to conceal. later
today clottey fight’s in HBO
Jabcity so you think Oscar can win against Margo if they were to fight.
I agree with you 100% BK power, mexican fighters do complain when they get beat especially when it’s a part of America that has mostly Mexicans. That’s why Cotto shouldn’t try to fight Marg in Las Vegas.
What do you think of this matchup: Cotto Vs. Clottey?
dmr: i like that matchup alot and think it will happen when clottey ko’s judah tonight. As for the fight- it’ll be tough b/c clottey is tough as rocks given he fought with no hands against margo on top of a tight defense…but intangibles would be how cotto responds to his first defeat and really is he the same? I think his uncle as trainer days are over since there was talk of them having problems and now with the loss so you gotta add that too. Good fight potential cuz of this…i’d go with cotto though against clottey—similar fight to Trinidad vs Thiam (Mamadou or something like that).
Thanks dmr! Jrx! Yes! I think oscar can beat margo. Golden boy is to smart! The basic plan is there. Paul did it. Cotto was doing it. I guess it needs some tweaking but the blue print to beat margo is there.
I agree with the few last comments.I just saw the replay of cotto/margarito. Joey! I’m starting your substance theory on margarito. Lol! Cotto fucked him up with punches to the head! No one could take those shots! No other way of saying it so please excuse my language.
Starrdog: Today we all peeped this fight in HD and still saw the realness of it. Rest that theory and stop whinning on them steroids thing. Look at it like this…Cotto hit a 37 year old version of Mosley with some solid shots and there were no ko’s or knockdowns so what is that. He was just too much for him and used his style—take a shot to give my shot throwback style. Cotto lost…if the rematch occurs than lets pop off on that one. Them childish unsophisticated remarks only paint your corner man. My man broke him down- took his best shots and tko’d your man. Margo’s game plan was just that and he trifected. Nuff said. Maybe next time my man…next time.
yo! i just saw the judah/clottey fight. judah is such a cheater! i cant believe he told the dr at ringside that he couldnt see after he sufferd that cut above his eye. the dr said to judah, “how many finger am i holding up?” and judah said “3″ when the dr was holding 2! hahahahaha! he thought that by doing that he could win on the score card and wouldnt have to finish the fight and win it in 9 rounds, but, IT BACK FIRED ON HIM! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! he tried to say it was a head butt when in fact it was a punch from clottey! its clear to see on the video tape! what a dum muthaf$%ka!!!!!!lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
ITS KOOL MARGARITO WON!!!! BUT PEOPLE COTTO ANT DONE YET REMACTH OR NO REMACTH HE WILL COME BACK AND TAKE WHAT WAS TAKING FROM HIM HELL DESTROY ANY CONTENDOR!!!!!
Bkallday. Yo! When did I claim margo used steroids? Only comment I made was that after watching the fight again, I’m starting to believe those steriod rumors. The ones made by someone else on this page. Cotto is still the better fighter/boxer. The crew on hbo even referred to it. That’s been my whole statement. On how one of my favorite boxers was the better fighter even though he lost.
I can’t beleive it has come down to this…. read the news, Marg came back negative. I ain’t mex or PR but ya’ll PR keep coming up with every excuse… Crying and shit…. yo MAN’S LOST!!!!!!
Yo! How do you know its only pr’s complaining?
It seems like it playa….. not only on this page but everywhere… i hear it at work… school…. streets… I understand though, if it was a Mexican who lost they’d be doing the same thang… if it was a brotha we’d be doin it too so whateva…
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Hopkins VS Pavlike Oct 18! what ya’ll think??
Pavlik TKO!!!
Yeah I think he’ll mess Hopkins up! He really dissappointed me in his last fight VS Calzaghe!!!
Well to tell ya da truth if I was Mayweather I would have retired too…. Look at it from his stand point…. Hes filthy RICH…got TONZ of edorsements and hes undefeated… No one in the history of boxing has ever achieved everything that he has done for the sport of Boxing…. Only thing that has me a lil curious is that he was supposed to fight Cotto before he retired and that is what makes me think he chickened out. Only reason I wasnt a Mayweather fan is because he was way too Cocky…. Im a Puertorrican and we get respect out of humbleness.. I can bet you anything you want… Mayweather is coming out of retirement soon…. money comes and goes…once its gone…its time for some more fighting….